Is DS Domination a Scam
Name: DS Domination (DSD)
Website: www.dsdomination.com
Price: $9.95/month (Affiliate Fee) + $19.95/month (Pro), $99.95/month (Elite)
Upgrades: $199.95 Market Extreme, $249.95 Unleased, $499.95 Monopoly
Owners: Roger Langille, Kevin Hokoana, Hitesh Juneja / President: Jason Rose
Overall Rank: 25 out of 100
The DS in DS Domination stands for Drop Shipping but it should be Deceptive Selling. Is DS Domination a Scam? It is not Drop Shipping and here is why. The definition of drop shipping as stated by Wikipedia “is a supply chain management technique in which the retailer does not keep goods in stock, but instead transfers customer orders and shipment details to either the manufacturer or wholesaler, who then ships the goods directly to the customer.”
How does DS Domination work?
With DS Domination (DSD) you are not working with a manufacturer or a wholesaler. What you are doing is copying information from a retailer such as the Amazon or Walmart websites, which is illegal according to the Amazon Rules (see below image), pasting the information into your eBay Sellers page, and then setting a higher sales price for your customers.
When your eBay customer buys the product from your listing and then pays you via PayPal, you then buy that product from Amazon or Walmart at a lower price and have them ship it to your customer. Whatever money is left from the difference after all fees have been paid, you get to keep. Sounds simple, right? Well there are some hidden costs that are not mentioned in the DSD promotion.
Being an eBay PowerSeller I will explain these fees in just a bit. Or you can check out my blog post about the sudden resignation of DS Domination CEO Roger Langille. I also talk about the hidden costs and fees from eBay and PayPal and provide a link to Wholesale Drop Shipper vendors. This post is called, Does DS Domination Work – Roger Langille Resigns.
Amazon Rules
Copying information, text and photos that DS Domination teaches in their program is not allowed according to the Amazon Condition of Use Agreement.
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eBay is Cracking Down on Sellers Doing DS Domination
Within the past few months I have been approached by former eBay sellers about joining the real make money from home opportunity that I belong to (see below), promoting anything on the Amazon website and having Amazon pay me directly, I am an Amazon Associate as well as an eBay PowerSeller.
These former eBay sellers had their long-time accounts forever suspended by eBay because of many customer complaints over returns from purchases that are a result of the DSD arbitrage program. eBay does not allow any of their sellers to partake in such a scheme. When it comes to their attention that one of their sellers are doing the DSD copy and paste program, their eBay accounts are being suspended, without the opportunity to appeal.
How does eBay know? According to every former seller that contacted me, they had a lot of accumulated complaints about problems with returns and many found out that their sale items were being shipped in Amazon boxes when they were supposed to have been shipped in plain boxes. This is why it is vital to work with a REAL drop shipper who will accept returns and ship in a plain box.
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It is not Drop Shipping, it is Arbitrage
Though this may sound like drop shipping, it is actually Arbitrage. First off Amazon and Walmart are not manufacturers nor are they a wholesaler, which are the two entities that are part of an actual drop shipping technique by definition. Secondly buying an item from a retailer like Amazon or Walmart and reselling it on eBay for a higher retail price is called Arbitrage.
Though arbitrage is often referred to within financial institutions like the stock market it does also refer to the buying of “retail” goods from one source and sold at another. The definition of arbitrage by Wikipedia states, “…in simple terms, it is the possibility of a risk-free profit after transaction costs. For instance, an arbitrage is present when there is the opportunity to instantaneously buy low and sell high.”
The DS Domination Pros & Cons
PROS
• You can make some money if you implement the program correctly
• You will learn the technique of drop shipping
• You will get a listing of wholesalers
• Easy to understand training videos that will guide you through the program
• Two ways to make money with DSD
• Bonus money making program
CONS
• DS Domination is not true Drop Shipping, it is actually Arbitrage by definition
• There is no money back guarantee of the marketing products purchased
• You have to purchase the marketing products every month to make money
• There is no discounted or free trial period when first joining
• There is no mention of prices on their website for the different products you must purchase to succeed
• You will not be able to make big money right away if you are just starting on eBay
• There is no upfront information that says you have to be an eBay PowerSeller to make big profits
• There is no mention of the eBay Listing Fee, the eBay Final Value Fee, and the PayPal Fees
• It is very difficult to achieve the eBay Top Rated Seller level using the DSD program as a beginner
• Profit margins cannot be as high as suggested in DSD Promotional Videos because of hidden fees
• Many people fail at making money with the Arbitrage program and prefer doing the MLM-based referral “affiliate” program
• If you want to refer (get people to join DSD under you like an MLM), you have to pay a monthly fee
• The DSD program violates the Amazon Condition of Use Agreement
• Competition from other DSD members will cut into your profit margin
• You have to pay for information on Wholesalers & Drop Shippers that are FREE online & on this website (see below)
The DS Domination Products you must buy to succeed
In order for you to have the slightest chance to succeed using the DSD cut and paste your way to profits program, as described by Roger Langille in his promotional DSD video, you have to buy the monthly products. But wait! There is a catch!
The cost for these products are billed directly to your credit card every month automatically and when you join DS Domination you have to accept those Terms and Conditions. You also have to agree to the No Refund policy, (see below image).
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PRODUCTS:
DS DOMINATION PRO ($19.95/Month): This is an introductory training product where Roger Langille introduces you to the way to make money on smaller items from Amazon & Walmart to eBay. NOTE: From many of the other reviews I have read of this product, you will not make a lot of money, if at all, from this $19.95 per Month training.
DS DOMINATION ELITE ($99.95/Month): This training product is the same as the Pro but it is more robust in that it tells you how to make more money with larger more expensive items on Amazon & Walmart. It also provides you with a list of wholesalers to sell products from and a scraping software tool that helps you in selecting products for sale. NOTE: I provide a free link and information to over 1,000 Wholesalers on this website. More on this link below.
UPSELL PRODUCTS:
DS DOMINATION UNLEASHED ($249.95/One Time Cost): This is training where
Roger Langi
lle supposedly “Tells All” of his secrets to becoming an eBay PowerSeller. Many members in DSD claim that this is where the training should have started. Really? Then that just means both Pro and Elite are total wastes of money! NOTE: I could stop right here at tell you right now that DS Domination is a total waste of money because I am an eBay PowerSeller and it is not hard to become one. I will even tell you how at the end of this review. But for now let me continue with this money wasting farce.
DS DOMINATION MONOPOLY ($499.95/One Time Cost): This training will show you everything you need to know about Amazon and how to research products, how to buy at the lowest prices, how to list and sell products, plus much more. NOTE: You do realize that this information that DSD is charging you roughly $500 for can be learned from many books sold on Amazon for $15 and less? You can even learn this on your own through the Amazon forums. Talk about flushing $499.95 down the toilet.
REFERRAL AFFILIATE PROGRAM PRODUCTS:
AFFILIATE PROGRAM ($9.95/Month): If you want to become an affiliate and market the DSD program to earn a MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) commission, you have to spend $9.95 per month on top of an additional $119.90 per month ($19.95 Pro + $99.95 Elite) which will bring your monthly total to $129.85 or $1,558.20 per year! NOTE: DSD is not true Affiliate Marketing. Real Affiliate Marketing is always free!
DS DOMINATION MARKET EXTREME PACK ($199.95/One Time Charge): This training will teach you the best practices in how to market the DSD program to get others to join through what they call their Affiliate Program.
Why I would not recommend DS Domination
I am an eBay PowerSeller and I have been selling successfully on eBay since April of 2000. Following the DSD “copy & paste” program, not the MLM part of the program, will not make you enough money to cover what you have to pay DS Domination for the training products. Even if you were to purchase the best of the two training courses for $99.95 per month, there is a HIGH probability that you will not make that money back within a month. Why?
Unless you are an eBay Seller with a lot of Positive Feedback already or you are a PowerSeller like myself, you will more than likely be passed up by customers who would rather buy from a Seller that is more established. This is how it always works on eBay.
If every DSD member were making huge amounts of money using the “copy & paste” program, it would be the hottest program around and it is not. In their promotional video they claim that all you need to do is copy and paste information that is so easy, with “No Effort” on your part, that making money is like being on autopilot.
Those Hidden Fees
Another reason why it will be hard for you to make your money back every month is because of the eBay Listing and Final Value Fees plus the PayPal Fee. Here is an example of how much you would make after all fees were accounted for on an item that sells for $100 with free shipping. That is a generous price because most things that sell on eBay are $60 and below.
But for this example we will stick with $100 for an item that cost you $70.00 to purchase. After all fees you will make $86.50, paying $13.50 in fees and coming out to a total of $16.50 in profit. Here is the breakdown:
$0.30 = eBay Listing Fee per item (-$0.30)
10% = eBay Final Value Fee per item (-$10.00)
$0.30 = PayPal Processing Fee per item (-$0.30)
2.9% = PayPal Selling Fee per item (-$2.90) – NOTE: International payments are 3.9%
So you better hope that you sell a lot of high priced items for a hefty profit that will cover the original cost of the item, your eBay fees, your PayPal fees, and your DS Domination monthly payments. As an eBay PowerSeller I can assure you, if you are not already a PowerSeller or someone who is well established as a seller on eBay, you will NOT come close to breaking even.
Would you like my FREE information instead of paying DSD for theirs?
I really hate these online companies that claim to be able to teach how people can make great sums of money online from home but require you to spend a fortune for information that is either misleading or can be had for free elsewhere online. However I will not call DS Domination a total scam but it will DEFINITELY NOT be as easy as they claim nor will you make as much money, especially when you first start out.
So I am going to explain how you can become an eBay PowerSeller, sell on eBay, find a free list of Wholesalers & Drop Shippers, and how to start your own online business that is a Real Affiliate Marketing business. Now you may be wondering if I am really an eBay PowerSeller or just someone writing a review on DS Domination. I am both and I can prove it so read on.
How to become an eBay PowerSeller
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In order to become an eBay PowerSeller all you have to do is have a minimum of 100 transactions and make a minimum of $3,000.00 in Sales over 12 months, plus have a Sellers Account in good standing (see above image). That is all that is required! Do you see why paying DSD $249.95 for this information is a total waste of money? There are various levels of the PowerSeller program so the more you consistently sell over the minimum of $3,000.00 per year, the higher your PowerSeller level and the discount you get on eBay Final Value Fees.
A much better way to work at home than using DS Domination
If you want to know how you can get a free link to over 1,000 Wholesalers & over 65 Drop Shippers, a free link to my eBay Sellers Profile, and how to get started selling on eBay for free, check out my post called How to Make Money on eBay – 7 Tips From an eBay Power Seller.
If you would like to learn how you can start a REAL work from home job in Affiliate Marketing where you keep 100% of what you make, that comes with training and two WordPress websites for free, check out my post called The Wealthy Affiliate Review. If you have any comments or further questions as to why DS Domination is not worth the money and effort, please leave them below and I will be happy to reply.
How did you manage to get so much information out of DSD ?
In addition to my research and being recruited by someone doing DSD, I personally know people who used to be in DSD and explained the process to me. Plus DSD makes a lot of this information available through its members, or at least they used to before they started losing business.
From what I have read and researched arbitrage is not illegal. You may violate copyrights using pictures from retailers but buying and reselling from online retailers is not illegal.
I never said that arbitrage is illegal. I said that copying item descriptions and photos from websites like Amazon is illegal, as stated in the Amazon TOS Agreement. But the problem with what DS Domination teaches its members is not real drop shipping and it does not and cannot produce much of a profit like REAL drop shipping will always produce. I explain how REAL DROP SHIPPING works in a recent blog here. http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/free-drop-shipping-wholesale-suppliers-make-money-on-ebay
I was a DS Domination drop shipper- I made about $100 each month and then the ebay and paypal fees were taken out. I was disappointed that my first two buyers were overseas! I was offering FREE shipping since I was buying from Amazon…well, I had to cancel my first two sales because I wasn’t trained in shipping overseas and the mailing costs would have bee outrageous.
I quit paying DS Domination and drop-shipped on my own..had to be real about paying someone money every month when I already was making some money. I agree that it can get sticky when someone wants to return an item back to the seller…only to find out amazon shipped it off. It is fun but I wasted most of my time posting so many items on ebay and most of them still haven;t sold 2 1/2 years later, and I am good at keywords to rank high.
These are the reasons why I do not recommend DSD, because it is NOT real drop shipping and you will run into problems when it comes to returns and turning a profit after paying fees and the DSD membership. Doing drop shipping on your own is really not hard and it is more profitable because real drop shippers are more often than not FREE to use. Learn more at how to avoid fake wholesale drop shippers and finding legit ones at this link here http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/free-drop-shipping-wholesale-suppliers-make-money-on-ebay to my latest blog on wholesale drop shippers.
I am confused. I was looking into Ebay Arbitrage, is that what you were referring to in the above? The cost of the program I was looking into was $67.00 Total, with a 90 day money back guarantee. I checked with ebay, and they didn’t seem to have any problems with the system, unless they did not understand what I was talking about. Please explain the difference between Direct Shipping and ebay Arbitrage.
I think your question should be what is the difference between Drop Shipping and Arbitrage? The answer is simple though similar.
Arbitrage is when you buy something at a store or online like from Amazon at a price that is close to if not at the retail level and resell for a higher price. This will rarely give you a big enough profit margin because most people are not going to pay for something at a higher price when they can get it for cheaper elsewhere.
Drop Shipping is when you buy something from a wholesaler or direct from the mnufacturer at wholesale prices and then resell for a price that is higher. In real drop shipping, not in arbitrge, a person can get a much bigger profit margin because they are raising the cost of an item from its already below retail price. Basically you are selling an item from near the same price a store or Amazon pays for a product before they mark up the price.
EXAMPLE:
Let’s say a brand new Copier/Printer/Scanner DeskJet 2130 from HP costs HP $10 to make.
HP sells it to a wholesaler for $15.
The wholesaler then sells it to a store, Amazon and YOU for $20.
The store and Amazon mark up the retail price to $40, which is a 100% profit over wholesale.
If you did Arbitrage and buy the DeskJet 2130 from Amazon or some other store for $40 and mark up the already high retail price, how are you going to make a good size profit if at all? But if you did real Drop Shipping and purchased the DeskJet 2130 from the wholesaler at $20 and marked up the price to just below retail at $37, you would have a much better chance at making the sale because your price is cheaper than retail and thus your profit would be a guaranteed $17.
Can you help me too,please? Thank you!
How can I help you Kimberly?
I pay 20 and can not get in the back office – i will sign up with some one that can help?
Sorry to hear about that George. I have known many people with a similar problem as yourself and some of them had even worse problems. Unfortunately I cannot help you with anything having to do with DS Domination. What I can do is say that you need to be very careful using DSD because if eBay and Amazon find out you are using their illegal copy and paste system, your accounts with eBay and Amazon will be shutdown, and this has happened to many people.
Hi Robert
Great info about DSD eBay Amazon how can I get the traffic to my website after joining the wealthy affiliate or any other program?
Thank you Mohammed. The only legitimate and rewarding way to get traffic is to earn it through high Google rankings. The Google ranking algorithm requires you to create quality and informative content that people will want to read and share. The more interaction you get on your website, the higher Google will move you up in the rankings. The higher you move up, the more traffic you will get.
But all of this takes time and knowledge. There are specific steps that must be followed and Wealthy Affiliate teaches the most up-to-date techniques that provide results and do not hurt your chances like programs that promise high rankings and link building. Those are OLD techniques that Google does not reward anymore.
Hi Robert
I got a quick question for you actually I tried so many home based business including the pyramid mlm get quick rich schemes pledging money but never made a dime I lost my life savings I am interested in the affiliate marketing do you think wealthy affiliate is better to start with and most importantly how can I get the traffic to my website do you k ow any legitimate company that can get me some help?
Mohammed,
Wealthy Affiliate is an authentic way to build and grow a legitimate online business because they provide you with the education, tools, resources, community support, and coaching. They also give you facts and not lies and false promises. One fact is that there is NO such a thing as an easy and quick way to make money online. It takes time and hard work to get going. Some people start making money in 3 months some take longer. It took me about 6 months.
The majority of Pyramid, MLM and get rich quick schemes do not work and only make money for those who are the original owners of the program. They scam money from everyone who join on false promises of quick, easy wealth, but fail to tell them that this will not work and will only make the owners wealthy.
At Wealthy Affiliate you do not get any of that false hyped up hope. You are given REAL online business techniques that have worked for more than 20 years with the education to back it up. Not only will this education, which only costs $47 per month and is all-inclusive, help you to succeed online with Wealthy Affiliate, but you can take this knowledge and go elsewhere and apply it. But before anyone can succeed in their own online business, they need the education in how to make everything work and that is what Wealthy Affiliate provides. Education, Resources, Support & Success.
there also are many people on Fiverr.com who can help you with traffic, website content and articles.
Be careful of buying traffic for your website from Fiverr or any other source. Google will downgrade website rankings for bought traffic because it is not organic traffic. Only organic traffic will be beneficial to a website rankings and sales.
Thank you so much for this information. A lady in my Church told me about DSD and I was looking into it, but now I think I will research drop shipping using your methods to see if it’s something I can do. I want to bring this website up to my friend to see if she knew that DSD was, in my opinion, unethical. I know she had said that there were changes that occurred with the percentage rates and returned that caused her to lose a lot of money this summer (she said she was making $4,000 a month with DSD using the $19.95 deal). When the changes were made on eBay and she did not know right away, her account was not suspended but hidden for 3 months due to not following the rules. She is back to picking up sales again with DSD. However, if I tell her my findings about DSD and she agrees that DSD isn’t the best company, what suggestions would you have for a person who has been using DSD for 2 years to be able to switch to other methods? What would be the best way? Thank you again for all this helpful information.
Hello Crystal,
First off DSD and eBay are totally separate and if she wants to leave DSD she can still make money doing REAL drop shipping on eBay with REAL drop shippers. Copying product information from a retailers website (like Amazon, Walmart,…), then posting on eBay for a retail higher price, taking customer’s money, buying product from retailer with customer’s money, having retailer mail product, and seller keeping the difference is NOT quite how drop shipping works. But this is what DSD teaches and it is a somewhat illegal and risky way to make money drop shipping on eBay. It is actually called Arbitrage and not drop shipping.
If your friend wants to do REAL drop shipping she can go to Google and search for Wholesale Central and click on the Dropshippers link. Then all she would have to do is join any of the drop shipping programs she wishes. I HIGHLY recommend Sunrise Wholesale. Their profit margins are much higher, they mail and handle all returns without any problems, and their yearly membership is $140.40 CHEAPER than DSD. If your friend is paying DSD $19.95 per month, in one year (12-months) she would have spent $239.40 but at Sunrise Wholesale the yearly cost is only $99.00 and their first 7 days is FREE! Plus she will be selling at retail prices and buying at wholesale prices, thus making a bigger profit. This is how REAL drop shipping works.
thanks Robert,i have been researching on DS domination for about a month no thanks to Jesse Singh for not replying any of my mails.your page has truly convinced me not to join them. About WA,i can’t join the free trial since i’m from Nigeria ..I was told I can make it through the premium level but still would not accept me.i wish there is a thing I can do to get in through you. I recently joined syntek global livelite mlm but I dont think I can be telling lies to get partners to grow my business with overpriced unsalable products in Nigeria.pls help me out
George, there are 11 countries that are prevented from taking part in the free trial offer and Nigeria is one of those countries. You will have to join using the Premium membership and since PayPal does not support Nigeria, you will have to find an alternate payment method. If you have a PayPal account then use that. If you don’t you will have to use an alternate by using Payoneer at https://www.payoneer.com
Very nice info. I have a couple of questions…does Wealthy affiliate training teaches you about drop shipping? second, could you explain to me how taxation works on this e-commerce business? thank you for your time and effort in providing great information for people like me who wants to venture in this kind of business.
No. Wealthy Affiliate teaches affiliate marketing which is sort of like drop shipping except you do not have do purchase any products or deal with the customer at all. All you do is promote/review any kind of products from the websites of retailers like Amazon and post them in a blog. Then place free ads to those products in your blog promotion. Every sale your ad sends to Amazon, Amazon will pay you a commission, 24/7/365. To learn more about how affiliate marketing works, read my post here. http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/how-to-make-money-by-affiliate-marketing-online
hey Robert,thanks for the review..really helpful.I almost joined DSD and through your review,I dont think I will,but I do want to become an ebay powerseller though Im in Kenya,Africa… can I do it without compromising my location?
You are welcome Evans! If you want to become an eBay PowerSeller it will take one full year of you listing and selling a certain amount of items. If you meet the selling goals, eBay will review your account and raise you to PowerSeller status.
It doesn’t matter where you live. You can be a PowerSeller in any country as long as you meet the selling goals for a full year and then maintain it moving forward. All you need to do is sign up with an international drop shipper. I have a link on my blog about selling on eBay, under TIP 2, that lists a lot of wholesalers and drop shippers. You can find that link at this blog here. http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/how-to-make-money-on-ebay-7-tips-from-an-ebay-power-seller
Hi,
Thanks for the information.
I am in Africa and wish to do drop shipping internationally. Will my location pose any challenges?
No, you can do drop shipping anywhere in the world as long as the drop shipping company ships world-wide. If you go to the link called “Drop Shipping Wholesaler” on my blog post at this link http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/does-ds-domination-work-roger-langille-resigns (it is located halfway down the page) it will give you a list of wholesalers that do drop shipping.
Hi Robert, i have read your article, and i must tell you honest that im not agree with you. The DSD gives you the basic education how to make profit online, of course, but not only that, they also have usefull softwares, and i can tell you , the softwares are great and really needable. They also prepare you to handle in cases like returns, and other important things to protect your ebay account. I join DSD 29 september, and follow the training in pro, after 5 days listing only 4 items,i just made a sale with 10 usd profit include the paypal fee and ebay fee, they really prepare for that kind of calculations. By writing this i already made my second sale today, and that with a ebay account without any reputation. DSD-4ever
TL, you have every right to disagree with me but everything I have said is true.
What DSD teaches you is NOT real drop shipping and it is not endorsed by eBay or Amazon. And if eiher of them find out you are doing the DSD copy and paste your way to profits, your eBay and Amazon accounts will be suspended indefinitely! Amazon may even take further legal action against you because copying ANYTHING from their website is ILLEGAL, according to their Terms of Use Agreement.
Though you said you made a $10 profit after figuring in the cost of the eBay and PayPal fees, did you forget your $19.95 monthly cost for Pro? Every single person doing DSD that claim to make a profit always forget to factor in their monthly membership costs to DSD. You can ONLY make a profit AFTER ALL COSTS are calculated which are eBay listing and final value fees, PayPal fees, and your monthly DSD fees.
All I am saying is if you want to do REAL & Leagl drop shipping on eBay, their is an easier, cheaper and more legal way of doing it than DSD. I have been selling on eBay for 14 years, I am a Top Rated PowerSeller and I am telling you the truth when I say, eBay is well aware of DSD and whenever they find out that any of their sellers are doing the DSD program, they will swiftly cancel your sellers account. So be careful that none of our customers complain about anything.
I really wish I had seen this before giving my spare $20 to DS Domination two days ago. Everything about drop shipping in this article is the same as the videos I saw on DS Domination.
To get my money back I’m gonna use their site for the one month I paid for and cancel my account and do it the right way!
Thanks for this information.
You are welcome Chris! Good luck with your approach because what DS Domination teaches, the copy from Amazon and elsewhere and paste into eBay, is an illegal process. If eBay finds out that any of their sellers are doing the DSD system, they will suspend indefinitely the accounts of the seller, so will Amazon. They have done this to many people, I personally know of a few this was done to.
If you want to do drop shipping on eBay or any other place online, then learn it the correct way and learn it for free because it only takes about an hours worth of reading to understand the easy process. Learning how to do drop shipping should not be something that cost money because all it is, is a system of mailing producs. Basically instead of you stocking merchandise and mailing to your customers, you send the shipping information to the vendor of the merchandise and they mail it.
I agree with you Chris. Now I am in the same position as you were a couple of months ago. I joined DS Domination and spent $20 but after reading Roberts article I am sorry I did not come across it earlier or else I would not have become a member. Now I have until next month to cancel my account. Like you I will just use the site for the month and cancel my account. I prefer to learn how to do drop shipping the right way. Thanks Robert for the information. I wish more people out there were able to see this information.
You are welcome Lois. I wish more people would take the time to seek out reviews of programs that offer any kind of online work at home opportunity before they spend their money. I have been burned many times in the past for not doing my due diligence but fortunately I found an honest work from home opportunity called Wealthy Affiliate that is 100% free to start and teaches you how to build any kind of online business from scratch with awesome training. The fact that you can join, begin the training and building of your online business for ZERO dollars, and only pay $47 per month if you feel that the program is legit, this just proves to me and many others of how honest the program is. Best of luck to you and Chris in our future endeavors.
Hi Robert and thanks for this really helpful information.
I recently signed up for DSD Pro and didn’t feel quite right about it. I have made about 3 sales in two weeks but I am already having difficulties such as returns etc. I was a hop, skip and a jump away from getting Elite.
I do see how the business model can work to a certain extent but I totally agree with what you have said. It isn’t honest and it does go against Amazon rules.
I do have a question for you however. If I were to do dropshipping using one from the site you recommend, would I copy and paste their information into my eBay listing?
Can you give me any resources or online materials that may help me understand more the process of dropshipping.
Once again, Thank you.
Hello Daniel. Thank you and I am happy you found the information I provided to be helpful.
There are many reasons why I do not advocate the DSD program and one of the many is the problems with returns. Because DSD does NOT teach you real drop shipping, which very easily takes care of returns and refunds, many DSD members and ex-members had problems. Another thing to worry about is that if any of your customers complain to eBay about any problems they are having with returns, eBay will figure out you are using the DSD program and they will suspend your eBay account indefinitely. eBay has been cracking down on those who practice the DSD form of selling.
Many of the real drop shippers will provide you with the product information (pictures, description, & Suggested Retail Prices). You will also be given the Wholesale cost of the item so you will know up front what your profit margin might be based on what price you choose to sell it at on eBay. You may decide to list it below Suggested Retail so as to undercut others and attract more buyers.
Drop shipping is super simple to do, but just like selling on eBay, it requires you to work hard at it. The only difference between selling on eBay and drop shipping with eBay is that with drop shipping you do not have to stock and ship the product or worry about returns. Shopify did a great 9 page online tutorial on drop shipping. If you go to Google and search for “how does drop shipping work” you will see the Shopify link at the top of the page.
I have been with DS Domination unfortunately for 4 months and I am sad to say I have not made the kind of profits of which they are so proud of. I am in debt because of this company. I wish I would have checked out your site Wealthy Affiliate before I got involved with DSD. Not only do they charge for the individual packages, but I bought the IDP package which is Pro, Affiliate, Elite, and Supremacy for $149.95/mo PLUS they pushed and encouraged you to buy a VIP ticket to get extra bonuses for $299…of which I haven’t seen any bonuses or extra advantages, or a % off the packages they offer. I know for a fact that when the members (probably the Administrators) post on Facebook their screenshots of making $40,000 in one month are absolute false. I will never give them another penny, I’m so fed up with their lies and promises. Thank you Robert for posting this great review of DSD, because I know first-hand how devious they are.
So sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with DS Domination Lauren. You are not the only one. I have heard so many complaints from people I personally know and from other people as well. As an eBay PowerSeller I knew firsthand that what Roger Langille says in his “Join DSD” video sounded too good to be true. Plus he was promoting an illegal act. You can’t go up on a website and copy information and place it on another website.
I created this website to WARN PEOPLE about DSD because people do not know any better and will believe Roger and the garbage he is promoting without knowing how all of this works. That is not their fault, they just don’t know that they are being scammed. Well I DO KNOW and part of the job of this website is to educate people about scams and to offer other legitimate solutions.
And yes, those earnings screenshots can be faked, especially if they only show the balance total and not the actual earnings. Anyone can forward money into their PayPal account from their bank and take a screenshot. I hope you put a block on your credit card so that DSD cannot automatically withdraw funds from your card.
As for Wealthy Affiliate or any legitimate affiliate program, one thing to remember is – ALL legitimate affiliate programs are FREE to join. You would ONLY pay for an upgrade (if you want) and this upgrade should only be a one price upgrade and it should not be more than $50. If the affiliate program does not offer this, PROCEED WITH CAUTION!!!
I have been with DSD since September 2014 and with there training I made 7k this month on Amazon. I guess with anything in life you get what you put into it. I am also a wealthy affiliate. I think both companies are great companies. Robert did you try the DSD product for 90 days? Or are you using a bad review on DSD to promote wealth affiliates?
Thanks.
Hey Robert! I have a few questions…
1) Was that 7K Profit or Overall Earnings? 2) Was it Gross or Net? 3) Did you subtract your DSD monthly fee and any other fees from it? And 4) Was this FBA?
I did look into DSD and talked with a very good friend of mine who was in it. But I knew as soon as I watched Roger Langille’s video about the whole copy and paste thing that it was illegal to do according to the Amazon Terms of Use Agreement. I also knew that selling on eBay for a higher price than what you can buy on Amazon for cheaper “retail” and having them ship it, is not drop shipping.
Drop shipping is super simple to do and costs far less than what DSD charges its members. I am also an eBay PowerSeller so I know first hand how “real” drop shipping works. I know many wholesalers that do drop shipping and handle all returns and refunds seamlessly for $125 and less per year. The cost of DSD Pro for one year is $239.40.
So based on the yearly cost between what DSD offers and what real drop shippers offer, my first-hand knowledge of Amazon rules, my knowledge of eBay selling practices as a Top Rated PowerSeller, the information my good friend told me, what many others online are saying, and just straight up common sense, I cannot justify some of what DSD does. Do I think they are a scam? NO, I do not, but they do not teach drop shipping and charge way too much for something that can be found online for far cheaper and that is 100% legit.
I also looked into Roger Langille’s past at eBay and found some misleading things according to his comments about being a Titanium PowerSeller. And did you know that on May 7, 2015, Roger Langille abruptly resigned from DSD without any explanation or any other pending job offer? Makes me wonder why.
I know that’s not true. Too bad people are still promoting this terrible program.
Lauren, I too know it is not true and that is why I asked Robert those questions. I hope he will answer them if he can.
Thanks for the review on DS domination.
You are welcome Navraj. I hope you were informed that there is a better and far cheaper way to do REAL Drop Shipping instead of the somewhat dishonest approach that DS Domination teaches. Too many people are starting to find out that DSD is not as profitable as they claim.
Robert, Thank you for your very informative review. I was intrigued about signing up with DS. So glad I caught your article/review. What is the name of the other company that you recommended looking into as an alternative option (for a beginner like myself)
I was thinking of still signing up with DS for 1-2 months, watching all their training and videos, then dropping the program after learning how they do it? Thoughts?
You are welcome Joshua. The name of the alternate company is Wealthy Affiliate which offers you different ways to make money from home. They teach you Affiliate Marketing and how to affiliate with companies like Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, and thousands of others small and large. All of these affiliate programs are free to join. You can even take the knowledge you gain from the Wealthy Affiliate training and apply it to freelance opportunities in the real job market because marketing is a huge industry and so is WordPress website design which you will also learn, WITHOUT having to learn any kind of programming.
You can also become an affiliate of Wealthy Affiliate and promote their #1 rated online training program in how to create an online business in whatever you choose. Starter Membership is free, $0 per month and Premium membership is $47 per month. As an affiliate of Wealthy Affiliate, if you were to get only 3 people to join as a Premium member you would make #22.50 per person per month. That comes out to $67.50 per month, which more than pays for your monthly membership fee. And that is from signing up only 3 people. The more you sign up the more you make. I know people that make over $4,000 per month!
If you want to join DSD you can. But I will tell you right now, they do not teach real Drop Shipping. If you want to know how to do real drop shipping it is super easy and you do not have to pay to learn it. I am also an eBay PowerSeller and I learned Drop Shipping within an hour by just reading the instructions from the websites of a few different Wholesale Drop Shippers I have used. Their is no need to pay DSD their membership fees for fake drop shipping information when you can learn real drop shipping for free within an hour. And as an eBay PowerSeller I can tell you that the DSD program will not make you a lot of money unless you are an eBay PowerSeller already, and even then your profit margins will be less than you would think.
Hi Robert,
Thanks for your very informative review about DSD. I want to make some extra money on the internet from eBay, Amazon etc. But I live in Pakistan and where Paypal is not accessible. Can you tell me I can sell items on these sites as a Pakistani. Also please guide me how I can make money from Wealthy Affiliate.
I am sure you can but you would have to have a valid credit card to replace that of the non-use of the PayPal account. If you have never sold on eBay or Amazon, it will take some time before you can make any money because you must build up a positive feedback score before people will trust you enough to want to purchase from you.
Making money with Wealthy Afiliate is different in that you create a website based on a particular niche and you promote that niche through your website. A niche can be anything that other people are into. People that like to travel are in the travel niche, people that like to lose weight are in the weight loss niche. This kind of niche marketing is called Affiliate Marketing and the world’s largest Affiliate Marketing Program is the Amazon website.
Wealthy Affiliate will train you in how to make money with companies like Amazon, Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Walmart, and thousands of other companies small and large. You can also make money as an affiliate of Wealthy Affiliate. Wealthy Affiliate will pay you $22.50 per person that you get to join their training program every month. So if you were to get only 3 people to join Wealthy Affiliate as a Premium Member which costs $47 per month, you would make $67.50 every month, which is enough to pay for your monthly Premium Membership and leave you $20.50 profit.
This can seriously add up because if you can get 10 people to join as a Premium Member you will make $225.00 every month, 20 people you make $450.00 per month, and so on. So this is just one way to make money at Wealthy Affiliate while you are also learning to make money with your pre-programmed website doing affiliate marketing with companies like Amazon. Best part is, Affiliate Marketing with any of these companies is free and you do not have to buy or sell anything. Just write about them and promote them on your website.
If you want to know more about what is a niche and how you can make money in a niche and how you can make money with Wealthy Affiliate as a niche, watch the video lesson I have a link to on this website page here – http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/the-best-work-from-home-jobs-online-start-on-a-low-budget
If you wish to join Wealthy Affiliate you can join from within the video training or by clicking on the Wealthy Affiliate University banner I have on the right side of all of my website pages. Because you are in Pakistan you will be required to pay $47 for the Premium Membership up front with your credit card. And like I said, after you have joined and have taken some of the training, if you can get only 3 other people to sign up as a Premium Member, this will pay for your membership and leave you with $20.50 profit.
Robert I want to thank you for this article. I was literally minutes away from joining DSD. I have a friend who has been doing it and is highly successful doing it, but something from the very beginning never sat right with me. I even tried to talk to Amazon about it, but they never did anything. Now 1 year later after seeing my friend do well, I thought why not I will give it a try. But then something in my mind went hey Google DSD and see what you get and guess what here is your article. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, I knew that feeling I had was right. I just want to make money from home but in a honest way. I am so tired of wasting my money on stupid money making schemes. That is why I was leary about DSD. Your article was very informative and well written. I am not sure what I am going to do now, I don’t think I am even interested in selling on Ebay anyway. Again thank you for this article it really did happen my way at the right time.
You are welcome Stacy. I have been selling on eBay or 15 years and I can tell you first hand that DS Domination is a Ripoff. What they charge their members for information that isn’t really drop shipping is in my opinion a crime. It is so easy to learn drop shipping on eBay and you can learn it for free by just reading the drop shipping rules from the drop shippers websites. It doesn’t cost you anything to learn and these drop shippers will answer all of your questions and tell you what you need to do before you even pay them.
But what DS Domination teaches is not even drop shipping. They also do not tell you that you need to be selling on eBay for at least a few months straight before you will see any significant “pure” profit, meaning money left over after you pay them their expensive monthly fee, the eBay fee and the PayPal fee. Most people that make money in DS Domination don’t even make their money from the drop shipping / arbitrage side but from recruiting people into DS Domination. – I am happy I saved you your money and sanity.
Hello,
Im glad I found your website.
Im currently at the PRO level in DSD because I want to start finally make some money from home. I dont like programs that requires recruiting, since I know Im really not good at it and dont have many contacts in online bussines world.
But I want to ask you this: I heard that people can make way more money on Amazon and the techniques how to do it are teaching at Monopoly level. The problem is I really want to invest 500 dollars its just seems too much for this. So my questions are:
1.Can people really make 3-5K or even more per month on Amazon from what DSD teach in Monopoly?
2. Where i can find out the same techniques from monopoly for free or a lot of smaller amount??
3.Can I start doing this Amazon bussines immediately?
Thank you
Hello Tom,
Yes, the cost for Monopoly is WAY over-priced for the information you will get, especially when you can find out much of it cheaper online by yourself. So here are my answers to your questions.
1) No, not really. It will take you at least a couple of years before you see any kind of money in that range. For example, what DSD doesn’t tell you up front is that in order to make the amounts they claim on eBay, you need to be an eBay PowerSeller. An eBay PowerSeller can make that kind of money every month in pure profit. However that profit has to come after all of the eBay and PayPal fees as well as your monthly DSD membership fees, which in my opinion are a total waste of money. To become an eBay PowerSeller you would have to consistently sell a high volume of items for 12 months straight. So it would be at least a year before you could have the “chance” to maybe make $3K per month, $5K is pretty much a fantasy.
2) You can find out by going up on the eBay and Amazon websites. You can also check out my eBay PowerSeller tips. Being that I am an eBay PowerSeller, I wrote an in depth blog about how to sell on eBay and provide a free link to a Google database of 1000 wholesalers and over 70 REAL drop shippers. I say REAL because Amazon is not a drop shipper as DSD claims they are. You can read my post here. – http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/how-to-make-money-on-ebay-7-tips-from-an-ebay-power-seller
3) No. As with all types of online business you need the proper training and then the time to grow it. Plus there is no proof that people make more money on Amazon than they do on eBay. Either way you can start it now, but don’t expect to see any pure profit for quite some time. And while you are waiting for that profit to come just remember to subtract all of your monthly fees to determine your true profit.
So you can have success selling on eBay but success does not happen quickly. If you follow the DSD model be prepared to spend a lot of money before making a lot. Or you can do what I do and get my information directly from eBay and the wholesalers and not have to pay the expensive DSD fees.
I´m member of Facebook DSD group where people keep posting their screenshots from Ebay and Amazon and they claim to have more than 20K in sales in month thanks to Monopoly+Genesis. so I dont know what to think about this..
I am an eBay PowerSeller and I will tell you right now that the only way to generate 20K in sales per month is to be a Top Rated Gold PowerSeller which very few are. Another thing to remember is that when DSD makes monetary claims they are not that truthful. They conveniently leave out that in order to make even a few thousand dollars per month you have to be an eBay PowerSeller. Plus DSD does not explain well what you “actually” make. They tend to quote more on the gross amount and not the net amount. After you subtract all of the eBay and PayPal fees, the monthly DSD fees, the expensive one time costs for the DSD programs, and any taxes, your profits in what you make are very small. I wouldn’t believe too much about what those people are claiming they make. I know what can be made on eBay and 20K per month is not possible unless you are an established PowerSeller with a large cash flow.
Hey Robert, Stacy. Robert, it seems your bashing DSD pretty hard. Stacy, this is a business and if you treat it as such, you CAN see results in the in the 3-5k range sooner than 2 years. IF!!!! And that’s a big “If”. IF you are willing to put in the work, study, get out of your comfort zone, commit, DO NOT GIVE UP, PERSEVERE then yes, I’m sure you can see very good results. The people who fail are the ones who give up. Hard work and time is what you need to succeed.
Hey Phil, I am an eBay PowerSeller and an Amazon Associate. I know first-hand that what DS Domination advocates, the copy and paste from Amazon to eBay, is not only ILLEGAL but it is also NOT how drop shipping really works. I also know that eBay has been and is going to continue to crack down on their sellers who practice this type of selling.
They are already aware of what DS Domination teaches and they have and will continue to suspend indefinitely the accounts of any of their sellers who get complaints sent to eBay by buyers who purchased items on eBay but had them shipped in an Amazon box. Yes I know that Roger Langille had a system set up in DSD to have orders being sent from Amazon to be shipped to customers in a plain box. Obviously that didn’t work 100% of the time because many have complained to eBay.
I have talked with two former members who had their eBay accounts closed because of complaints and excessive amounts of refunds associated with those complaints. And now seeing how Roger Langille has abruptly resigned as DS Domination CEO, one must ask, could it be that his dishonest way of selling on eBay has finally caught up with him? As I have said in my most recent blog about DSD, no one knows for sure why he has abruptly left and I seriously doubt it has anything to do with his health, as is evident by his Facebook posts.
If DS Domination was a totally legitimate operation, I would not be warning people about it. But I know how Drop Shipping really works and what DSD teaches is NOT drop shipping! Unfortunately there are many who do not know better and being that I do, it is my job to educate them.
Thanks for the swift reply. I completely understand where you’re coming from. I was in DSD and I did feel bad selling items to customers at a higher price than they could find on Amazon, BUT, that is how buying and selling works. You HAVE to buy low and sell high. Some people will NOT buy from Amazon for whatever reason and some will NOT buy from ebay. I was going to purchase the Monopoly from DSD, but maybe not. Convince me not to and convince me to join you.
So…. what do you have to offer and how much better is it than DSD??? What kind of training do you do, how much can we expect to make?? Do you teach both Amazon and ebay?? How much to get started and how soon can we expect to make a healthy profit???
Waiting your reply.
Thanks…..
Yes buying and selling works when you buy low and sell high BUT NOT from a retail establishment like Amazon or Walmart. REAL buying and drop shipping is done with Wholesalers or Manufacturers, where you buy low at wholesale prices and sell for the higher retail prices. This way there is no fluctuation of your profit margin because the wholesale price is set and does not change, unlike the retail prices like those on Amazon.
Why would you even consider buying anything from DSD when they are a total RIP OFF! If you want to do drop shipping on eBay, you DO NOT need DSD! It is so simple to do drop shipping on eBay and it is so simple to find wholesalers that do drop shipping. Plus these wholesalers provide you with everything you need for your eBay listing and they handle all returns too. Also your profit margins are much bigger and their membership prices are 50% – 75% cheaper than DSD and for better service.
I just wrote a new post about DS Domination and the sudden unexplained resignation of their CEO Roger Langille. In that post I provide a link to about 80 wholesale drop shippers, which include a couple I have done business with. I also explain the simple process of drop shipping. If you want to read it you can see it here. – http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/does-ds-domination-work-roger-langille-resigns
The program I offer on this website is known as Affiliate Marketing, and not the bogus kind like DSD does. I am talking about becoming an affiliate of Amazon, Best Buy, Apple, Target, WalMart, Microsoft, Sony, and any other major retailer you can think of. It is a totally different way of selling that does not require you to list products for sale, nor do you have to deal with the customer.
You promote any product you are familiar with from any of their websites and these companies pay you a commission for every sale you send to them from your website or blog, which is provided to you already programmed. You also get an entire 50 lesson certification course, 2 free programmed websites, 24/7 help and tech support, Live weekly online classroom training, and a ton of other video and text training all for only $47 per month and there are NO UPSELLS! The $47 is the most you will ever pay. Plus you get the first 10 lessons and 2 websites absolutely free!
Thanks again for the reply. To say DSD is a “total” rip off is a little harsh. There are so many people making so much money. If it was a total rip off, they would have no members, but they have lots of members making very, very good money. It’s up to the member what and how use the information given. Some people give up, some people go bat crazy and reap the benefits. I don’t think it’s a rip off. It’s a genuine place to get a lot of information on how to start. Some people like this way, some people don’t. It really depends on the person, what they are comfortable with.
You said you got your first sale after 5 months. Is that right? That’s a long time to wait. With DSD, I got my first sale in a couple days. I ended up with a profit of a few hundred dollars, not too bad. Had I worked it harder, I would have made more. I was an ebay power seller, for a while. Should have stayed with it and maybe I could be working from home and making a great income. How much can you earn with your affiliate side of things????
DS Domination is a rip off when it comes to the knowledge of how to do drop shipping because they do not teach drop shipping. They teach a somewhat illegal form of Arbitrage. Learning how to do drop shipping takes no more than 10 or 15 minutes and it is free to learn! So spending any money to learn something that is so simple to understand and can be learned for free many places online is a rip off. You think paying hundreds for something fake when the real deal is free to learn is not a rip off?
The majority of the people at DSD that are making their money are doing so from the network marketing side of the project not the illegal copy and paste from Amazon to eBay side. I got my first sale on eBay on the very first day and 15 years later I still make money there. But this new way of making money is far superior, though it takes longer to get your first sale, because it is 100% legal and highly supported by Amazon and eBay and every other major retailer on the market. It cannot be compared in any way to DSD or even eBay and Amazon because it is something totally different.
I currently make my money from home via various sources. Currently my affiliate side is earning me a few hundred dollars pure profit every month and increases with each month. If I worked at it full time I could be making thousands per month like a couple of my friends who do it full time. But I am involved with various other ventures. Once my earnings reach what they are making, I will probably stop some of the other more labor intensive endeavors.
Hi. DSD has an option called ‘Monopoly’ which cost $500 one time fee, will I learn exactly what monopoly teaches? If so, how much $$??
Thank you sir.
Yes Max, DSD does have an option called Monopoly that is $499.95 but in order to get it you have to be paying the monthly fee of $119.90 ($19.95 for Pro + $99.95 for Elite). Plus you will also have to pay the one time charge of $249.95 for the Unleashed program too. So before you can start Monopoly you will have to spend a total off $369.85 and then another $499.95 for the Monopoly.
Monopoly and everything about DSD is a waste of money. I am an eBay PowerSeller and I do Drop Shipping but I do not do DSD. I work directly with the Wholesale Drop Shippers and it only costs me $179.00 per year. DSD charges you way to much money for programs that do not offer you any real value. You would do better and save so much money by doing Drop Shipping on your own, it really is simple and you do not need DSD. Their Monopoly program is garbage. http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/ds-domination-monopoly-review-2014-not-worth-500
thank you for replying Robert, im sorry man, i should have been more specific, my question was, will i learn from you, everything that I would learn from DS Domination Monopoly program?
I joined DSD last week, and I like it, just neeed more capitol to purchase things for profit…but I really want to jump into their Monopoly program, which I can go straight into..I asked..will I learn the same things Monopoly teaches, with your your system? whats the name of your system? Wealthy Affiliates?
Oh, yes I mis-understood your meaning.
The system I advocate on this website is different. You can sell any item from any major retailers website but you do not have to purchase it or ship it. What I promote is called Affiliate Marketing and it is a 1 Billion Dollar per year industry that is performed mainly by work from home individuals. Once you get set up and ranked into Google there is very little you need to do but collect your money which the major retailers pay you. Basically you promote their items, they give you affiliate ads to place on your website/blog, and every sale that comes through those ads, they pay you a commission of 5% to 75%, depending on what is sold.
However if you are still interested in going the eBay route I suggest the following. Visit my “How to Make Money on eBay” page http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/how-to-make-money-on-ebay-7-tips-from-an-ebay-power-seller and I provide a link to (Wholesale Central) a wholesaler directory on Google that list about 1000 wholesalers and 70 drop shippers. Research the drop shippers and join the ones you like. Some are free to join and even the ones you do have to pay for, they are WAY CHEAPER than DSD!
Drop Shipping is very simple to understand and follow, you really do not need to spend $500 for monopoly when you can do it all for far less money. Each drop shipper makes the process really simple and provides you with what you need to get started. I personally use DollarDays because they are simple, their customer service is awesome, they do a lot of the work for you, and they have a TON of great stuff.
Actually, you don’t have to buy Elite and Unleashed to get Monopoly. You do have to pay for Pro, the $19.95/month. After the first month you can cancel the Pro. I checked with a DSD member on this.
Yes, I understand that DS Domination changed their requirements for purchasing their upsells because they found out that many were complaining about the overall cost, which is still too high for what you are actually getting. DSD is a very poor ROI.
You do not have to buy other programs first to use them You can jump right in and buy Monopoly if you want as well as any other program I paid for PRO and ELITE skipped UNLeashed and went straight into MONOPOLY …you can for the highest one GENESIS without having any of the rest ..If you dont know the program dont write about what you dont know ..bashing other programs that work to make yours look good ….smh
It used to be that you had to buy Unleashed before you could get Monopoly. That is what my sponsor told me. But you still had to buy Pro and Elite at a combined price of $119.90 per month. That is way too much money for what you are getting which isn’t even a real drop shipping program. Arbitrage yes, drop shipping no. Yes, with Genesis you can go right in because it is not part of the drop shipping program but rather deals with Amazon FBA.
I am an eBay PowerSeller and I learned Real Drop Shipping by simply going to a few of the 70+ drop shippers list on Google that deal with eBay and read their drop shipping rules. A couple of them were free to participate and others had a cost that was less than half of the cost for Monopoly. It took no more than an hour to learn the super simple steps to drop shipping with these companies. This is why I say that Monopoly is not worth the $500, because it is not!
I don’t need to bash DSD Monopoly to make what I promote look better because what I promote is in a totally different league than DSD. It has nothing to do with drop shipping on eBay/Amazon, nor is it the same as DSD in any way. What I promote has always worked far longer than DSD has been in business and it is fully supported by Amazon. I bash DSD because as an eBay PowerSeller I know first hand that what DSD charge and teach you is a total rip off!
Great detailed review is what I would say if I wasn’t making money with dsd right now. Yes everything you are taught and more can probably we gotten on your own, but you would waste your money and time trying to figure out the right path. Dsd has done this for you. It took a lot of time to put this together and now they should just give it away? Maybe to the free loaders this is what should happen, but this is business and a lot of time and effort went into it. It is not a scam. I made my first sell within 48 hours of joining. I am with WA as well and I love it. WA is just like dsd, but for Affiliates. If your goal is to have wholesaler business then DSD is right place to learn everything you need to know. With out the wrong turns. Dsd is not for free loaders who want everything for nothing. Without a once of work.
I do not claim that DSD is a scam but they are highly over priced for what you get and they are not totally honest. Copying information from Amazon is illegal according to the Amazon Condition of Use Agreement. Then to sell an item for a higher price on eBay and then use the money you get from the buyer to purchase the item on Amazon is NOT real drop shipping. That is called Arbitrage. At least they should be honest about that. Drop shipping is when you deal in fixed Wholesale prices with a real drop shipper.
You also cannot make huge amounts of money using the DSD Amazon to eBay to Amazon model because there are too many variables to consider. Your profit margin would have to be enough to cover the eBay listing fee, the eBay 10% final value fee, the PayPal 2.9 and 3.9% transaction fee, plus the price fluctuations of purchasing a retail item that is not a set wholesale price, and then there is a percentage of your monthly DSD membership fee to factor in as well. The only way to make a lot of money using the DSD program as they claim would require you to be an eBay PowerSeller and you cannot become a PowerSeller without having a high sales volume for 12 months straight. I know this because I am an eBay PowerSeller.
The only profitable part of DSD is the recruiting of other people into DSD. But the monthly costs for their Arbitrage programs are a joke. You can get a much better deal doing it yourself. It truly is NOT hard to do. I even supply people a free link to 1000 Wholesalers and 78 Drop Shippers on this website. All you do is follow the instructions of the drop shipper and your good to go. No need to spend a lot of money learning how to do Arbitrage and make it sound like Drop Shipping. It is the dishonesty and the high prices of DSD that are the problem, especially since I personally know that you can do real drop shipping for so much less money.
I agree with your opinion of DS Domination wholeheartedly! You won’t believe this, but now they are about to roll out a new business called Options Domination, which will be about trading BINARY OPTIONS! Which is essentially gambling. When I heard of this I KNEW that these are not the kind of people I want to be mixed up with.
Actually I do believe that Jeffrey because the DS Domination business model is not designed for long-term real honest growth. If it were it would offer a FREE trial period when you first join, showcasing the benefits of the training like Wealthy Affiliate University does – http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/what-is-wealthy-affiliate-university – and then offer an inexpensive one-time upgrade to the program that everyone could afford. All of these upsells are the hallmarks of programs that are geared toward the company making money over the opportunity of the member making money. Upsells are the hallmarks of the majority of online scams.
Where can I get started; I been going through DSDomination course, I canceled after reading your report. So, please help me to get started with your program or opportunity. I have very little money to get started. Waiting for your direction. Elsa Torres
Elsa, you can join the Free Starter Membership and start the training at either the banner ad I have on the right side of my website or at this link – http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/free-starter-membership
Whereas DS Domination would cost you $119.90 ($19.95 Pro + $99.95 Elite) per month, the absolute most you would have to spend with the Wealthy Affiliate training program and for the running of your online business is $47.00 per month. Plus there is even a way for that to be free once you get a little further in the training.
Click the link above, it is 100% Free to Start. All that is required is for you to provide a username and a valid email address. Then once inside the Wealthy Affiliate website click on the GREEN “Get Started Here” button in the upper left corner of the screen and follow the instructions. Read the lesson and watch the videos for instructions. Depending on what time of the day it is for me, I should be in touch with you within 30 minutes to an hour after you join. You will get an email notification and my message to you will appear on your profile page.
Who and What is “Wealthy Affiliates”?? I want to work and make some money the honest way , with out all the extra Bologna. Elsa Torres (I’m willing to pay some money per-month, if it promotes a afford income)
Wealthy Affiliate is the #1 Ranked Online Training program that teaches you how to make money in Affiliate Marketing with Amazon, Target, Apple, Sony, and any other retailer you can think of. Unlike DS Domination, Wealthy Affiliate’s training is free to start. The first 10 lessons are free and you will get 2 fully programmed and functional WordPress websites that you can create into whatever you wish to sell.
Example: If you wanted to sell plasma TVs from the Amazon website, you create content and promote the TVs from your website. Amazon will give you affiliate ads specific to you to place on your website. Then every sale that comes from your website, Amazon pays you a percentage of the total order. You do not have to buy, handle, or ship any products, nor do you have to deal with any customers, Amazon does all of that. All you have to do is market the items on Amazon’s website with your website. This is what Affiliate Marketing is all about and why it is a Billion Dollar a year industry.
But Wealthy Affiliate is a lot more than a training program. It is a 100% complete internet marketing business community with about 200,000 members world-wide, where everyone can have their online businesses created, built, and hosted along with all of the training and 24/7 help and support for the all-inclusive price of $47 per month. BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU START AS A FREE MEMBER FIRST! This way you can test drive the 10 training lessons. Then if you want to upgrade and take your earnings to the next level, you can do so after seeing all that Wealthy Affiliate has to offer. The supportive community is one of its shining stars as EVERYONE is very helpful, including the owners.
Just like DS Domination, Wealthy Affiliate also offers a referral program but it pays much more per person than DSD does and you get to keep 100% of what you make. Basically Wealthy Affiliate is a One-Stop Internet Marketing Community that has been steadily growing for 10 years. I have been a member for about 2 years now and I thank God everyday for finding them. I had fallen for some scams before but Wealthy Affiliate is the real deal!
Thank you for your replies. I’m confuse about Wealthy Affiliate. I tried to fill out the application to your right and they said I’m already a member. “I AM”?? Where is the free start-up. Please, help me to straight this out. Elsa T.
If it said you were already a member, perhaps you have already joined Wealthy Affiliate in the past and never started the training program. Your email address is obviously already on file with Wealthy Affiliate. – I did a search for an ElsaT and it seems that you have already joined back on July 22, 2014, but you never started the training nor did you fill in your profile information by uploading a picture or writing up your bio.
You do not remember joining the training program back in July 2014? You would have received an email notification.
My understanding with DSDomination you have to use your own money to purchase the product from Amazon and after PayPal releases the money already paid my customer (4 to 90 days) you receive your commission (more expensive charge after that-as you have noted). Is this the same way Wealthy Affiliate operates?? ElsaT.
Yes, with DSD you copy information from Amazon (which is illegal according to Amazon’s Condition of Use Agreement) and then paste that information into eBay, set a higher price than what it is currently selling for on Amazon. If someone then buys it from you on eBay and pays you for it, you then take your money and buy it from Amazon and have Amazon mail it to your customer. Unfortunately the profit margins are most time really small or you wind up losing money because eBay charges you 10% and PayPal 2.9% of the total cost. On top of that you have the $119.90 per month membership you have to pay DS Domination.
Wealthy Affiliate is totally different. Unlike DSD, Wealthy Affiliate teaches you how to start your own Affiliate Marketing business. You do not have to buy, sell, handle, or mail any products. You also do not have to deal directly with the customer. All of that is handled by which ever retail company you affiliate with. All you do is write about and promote the products on your personal website,which Wealthy Affiliate gives you and teaches you how to correctly build. Retailers like Amazon will not allow you to affiliate with them without a website. They want to make sure that the affiliate marketers (that is you) is a real person and your personal website is proof.
I truly my apology To bug you with so many questions? I received a note from Kyle welcome me back and I try to explain to him about the situation and I have not received no reply. Where do I go from here is my Question to get in gear and go full stream ahead. Elsa T.
You should have received a link in the email that he sent to you. Once inside the Wealthy Affiliate website you just need to click on the Green “Get Started Here” button in the upper left corner of the screen and follow the onscreen instructions.
I think Robert’s program will do you much better than DS Domination. Once you build up some volume, I wrote some software that will make you much more efficient in Drop Shipping or Arbitrage.
Jeff
Yes Jeff, what I am offering is way better than DS Domination and you are also not locked into only one way of making money online. There is plenty diversification.
Hi RObert, I found this after reading the home page of DS Domination, and I am grateful for the heads up. I am an ebay powerseller and top rated seller, mostly in accessories for mobile devices.
I am looking to expand a $1200 per month business (in the off months) into something that can make me at least $3000 per month profit. I have the time to put into it, for now, and I wanted to ask you, since I have never drop shipped, If I’m doing most things right, and according to a good approach, how soon is it possible for me to attain that goal? (no crystal ball expected, but some perspective would be helpful) I want to steer clear of ebay or paypal infractions, and build something that far surpasses that initial goal in time.
Can Wealth Affiliate show me the way?
Hello Jonathan,
First off I do not recommend using DS Domination to achieve that goal because it could take years seeing how you have to pay them a monthly membership fee on top of the other eBay/PayPal fees you have to pay. And what they are teaching and advocating is not “real” drop shipping, it is arbitrage and not as profitable or respected as real drop shipping.
I too am an eBay PowerSeller and I have not been doing much drop shipping lately as I am in sort of a transitional phase. I am working on building my own store website through the Wealthy Affiliate training, that is NOT an eBay store. Basically it is a regular direct sales e-commerce website, that if someone buys an item (like they would on eBay using a Buy it Now), they are sent to a Shopping Cart and they can purchase the item.
I am doing this Store website in this way so I can bypass all of those hefty eBay fees. I don’t mind the PayPal fees as much but those eBay fees are killer. I am more than likely going to name my store website or website domain name, the same as my eBay username so my eBay followers know that it is me and I will also post links to items I currently have up on auction. This way I can drive more people to my auctions, should they not find something they like on my website. As an added bonus of building my own store website through Wealthy Affiliate, I can engage in eBay’s affiliate program.
So to answer your question, it would all depend on the drop shipper you are using and what their prices are. I will not tell you based on Amazon prices because they are NOT a true drop shipper. They do not sell at drop shipper prices. If you were to use a real drop shipper like one of the companies I use (DollarDays), it would depend on the products you sell and the profit margin. You really cannot put a time frame on it because there are too many variables. If I had to guess, I would definitely say at least a year of solid work every day.
THANKS FOR this information,
I am from INDIA, few day age me join DSD Pro, please give me advise can work with dsd for better ya no ?
None of the DSD programs will make you a lot of money, especially the PRO. For less money, mostly free, you can easily learn drop shipping by just reading the rules of the many drop shippers on the internet. I provide a link in my post on “How to Make Money on eBay” to a trusted Wholesaler and Drop Shipper database on Google. Load this page http://legitimatejobfromhome.com/how-to-make-money-on-ebay-7-tips-from-an-ebay-power-seller and scroll down to TIP #2. Just above where Tip 3 starts you will see a link to WholesaleCentral. In the bottom left column is a link for Dropshippers. Click on a link and read their rules. That is all you need to do and then choose the drop shipper you wish to work with.
I have worked with DS Domination, and while “Robert” subjugates DS domination in light of some facts…he is NOT presenting the facts accurately…it is not trustworthy facts. For one, you can see he is using a known internet tactic to put down DS domination and then provides links to another programs very similar to what he is putting down. Second, retail arbitrage is NOT illegal; using the term “illegal” with respect to amazon “rules” does not mean you cannot use amazon as a drop-shipping source. Copying and pasting is not illegal either, and while similar website to this one claim it is copyright infringement – it is actually fair use and simple business savvy. If it was copyright infringement then why is amazon and Walmart using it in the first place? (DUH)! Mind you,using their logos and/or infomercial product names can get you warinings and inveros from eBay, you should be cautious of what keywords you use as some sellers don`t want their products sold by you. Businesses everywhere,around the globe do this very same sell high buy low thang, and it is perfectly legitimate. How would they make a profit if they didn`t?
Hello Mark, let me address your inaccuracies.
First – The links I am providing are in NO way similar to DS Domination. I am providing links to an education program that teaches you to be an Affiliate of Amazon and practically every other retailer in the world, where you can join for FREE and keep 100% of what you earn. This is something that is not done with the DSD Copy/Paste program.
Second – I never said that retail arbitrage was illegal. As for the copying and pasting of Amazon pictures and content, I underlined in red the Amazon “License and Access” Rules where they clearly say “No Amazon service, nor any part of any Amazon service, may be reproduced, duplicated, COPIED, sold, resold, visited, or otherwise exploited for any commercial purpose without expressed written consent from Amazon.”
Third – I am an eBay PowerSeller and an Amazon Associate, I do know and also like many companies, buy low and sell high but only with wholesalers that offer “real drop shipping” not arbitrage. I do not offer products that you can get cheaper on Amazon and sell them for a higher price on eBay. As I have said to many people buying on eBay, if you see an item being sold that has a picture with a white background, go up on Amazon first and see if you can get it there for cheaper.
I prefer to operate an honest eBay business and not swindle people out of money. I wouldn’t want it done to me, so why would I do it to my customers? That is why I offer a “real” affiliate marketing opportunity and training with support on this website that costs far less than anything DS Domination could ever hope to provide. I have the facts and truth on my side being that I have been selling on eBay for 14 years and as an Amazon Associate for 2 years. What are your credentials?
Well said Robert this is exactly what I was looking for and that’s the TRUTH and well put together. Thank you for your honestly. People are just brainwash once again thank you for your very well put together information. DS is asking for to much money that’s not necessary.
You are welcome Debra. I have had many people email me asking what alternatives are there to DSD or how to have eBay un-freeze their accounts because of the problems that the DSD Copy & Paste way of things has caused them. My answer…You do not need DSD to make money doing Drop Shipping because A) DSD does NOT teach Drop Shipping but rather Arbitrage which is not really profitable, and B) You can do Drop Shipping with “Real” Drop Shippers for far less money than DSD is asking for. It is extremely easy to find Drop Shippers on Google, I even have a link on my eBay post.
I have been a member of DSD using PRO for two months. In January I cleared over £100 profit and have made £61 profit in these first 6 days of February. The team I am in offer a lot of help and support and we are a community. Going alone may be great for some but for me I enjoy what I am doing and am happy with DSD.
Carole,
Was that for working the eBay/Amazon program or the MLM/Network Marketing program? If it was the eBay/Amazon program was, that pure profit after your monthly Pro and DSD, eBay, & PayPal fees were subtracted? That is how the profit margins need to be calculated depending on which DSD program you are following.
What would you recomend to make money from internet?
Thank you for your question Nicko. There are many ways to make money on the internet, especially if you have your own website. Best part about that is that you don’t need to be good with computers or be tech savvy to build your own website. Do you like my website here? I built it all by myself and I do not know how to program.
With my knowledge I gained through inexpensive training (50% cheaper than DSD per month), I now make money writing website content for other people and companies, I make money in Affiliate Marketing selling items on the Amazon website as well as thousands of other companies, I build WordPress websites for others, and I have been selling on eBay for 14 years. There is even way more that can be done online to make money, you just need to get trained, get your own website, and stop falling for online scams. This website will show you how.
got your point. But why this company is growing if it’s a scam? Why their owner is not in jail?
Is amazon don’t know about it? If amazon knows they should have sue ebay for this because on a daily basis many sellers on ebay copy the information and images from amazon. Ebay should have been closed till date.
I understand your point. But please clarify more why it’s still running. And what will be the end result what is the end point of this company?
I was just planning to join dsd. Now i got a question mark in my head.
Thanks
Raj
First off I never say the DSD is a scam. I say they are not honest and upfront with how much it will cost YOU to join them and the very little money YOU will make. You will not make a profit doing the copy & paste part of the program unless you are already an eBay PowerSeller and even the money you make will not be that much because you will have to pay DSD $119.90 every month.
The only part of the business that is growing ever so slightly is the referral side. The copy & paste Amazon to eBay side of the business is not growing. There are many people trying to cancel their memberships because they are finding out, as I say in my review, that you cannot make enough money on eBay unless you are a PowerSeller. The ONLY way to become an eBay PowerSeller is to consistently sell on eBay for an entire year by selling no less than 100 items and make no less than $3000.00 in which eBay keeps 10% or $300.
Plus many members are having either their eBay sellers accounts and/or their Amazon accounts suspended for actions that are violating both Amazon and eBay Terms of Use agreements. DSD is only 16 months old and already there are close to 21,000 members world-wide that are interested in cancelling their DSD accounts. Unfortunately any payments made to DSD are NOT Refundable as stated in the DSD Terms and Conditions agreement.
There are way too many gray areas about DSD that just are not worth the stress and all of the money you will waste. I am an eBay Top Rated PowerSeller and I have seen a couple others like myself join DSD after I warned them. Both of them have lost their Top Rated status and their spotless records now have multiple Negative & Neutral feedback. One of them quit DSD back in November and the other one is in the process of quitting. I would not recommend DSD to anyone!
But being that DSD is not a total scam and the owners are not in jail, doesn’t mean a thing. The owners of Empower Network are scam artists and they haven’t been arrested either. So don’t base your judgement on that when deciding to join DSD or not. Just ask yourself this question, Are you willing to spend $119.90 every month even if you do not make enough in pure profit? I guarantee you that if you join you will waste so much money that it will take you years to finally break even.
Hi, Robert. It is great to read another interesting post from you. I also don’t like the way DS Domination do, especially come to affiliate marketing. Thanks!
Thank you Nieve. Yes, there are many people who do not like the way DS Domination has done business and I know a couple who have gotten into trouble by the copy and paste approach that DSD teaches. As an eBay PowerSeller I can definitely say that using DSD to help you sell on eBay is going to be a total waste of time and money.
I have actually used DS Domination before. I don’t think that drop shipping is a scam, but I do think their up-sells and turning it into network marketing is the actual scam. Great review though and thanks for revealing a lot about this company.
I didn’t say Drop Shipping is a scam John. What I said was that DS Domination does NOT do Drop Shipping. Listing stuff on eBay that is sold on Amazon, then buying it from Amazon with the money paid to you from your eBay buyer, and having Amazon ship it to your customer is NOT Drop Shipping! That is called Arbitrage! Amazon or Walmart are retailers. Drop Shipping is when you deal with the manufacturer or wholesaler of the product.
Wow, Robert! This is the most thorough and clear explanation of DS Domination I’ve seen. The way you explain by showing actual screen shots from Amazon, etc makes it clear that you have the facts. I’ll stay clear of this “opportunity”!
Thanks,
Robin
You are welcome Robin. Any time I see one of these so-called make money from home sites I always check out the Terms and Condition or Use pages of all who are involved to see if there are any inaccuracies. Most times you can find them. However the majority of people who join these less than honest business opportunities don’t take the time to read these documentations. Perhaps if they did, they would see what I showed in this review and would have not joined.
Hey Robert
Very informative review. I was asked to sign up for DSD. They made it sound like it’s really easy to make tons of money. All these additional “upgrades” that are not mentioned when they want you to join are a real eye opener.
Some friends were posting on FB how much money they are making every day.
I am guessing, though, that although it is illegal to re-sell Amazon and Walmart, they are not actually affiliates of these companies, so probably no punishment will go their way. Is that right?
Gordi
Yes Gordi, they will not be punished because they are NOT affiliates. The only thing that may happen is that they will get their Amazon Prime account shut down and Amazon will stop mailing their orders to their customers.
Besides, the majority of people in DSD that are making money are not making money by using the system they are promoting. They are making money on the MLM portion of the program. It is just another pyramid type system. You can only join DSD through another member and part of what you make gets passed up to your sponsor. The reason why the majority of people in DSD are doing the MLM side of the business is because the eBay/Amazon side is very difficult to make any good money. The whole DSD program is just a waste of money and it is not even drop shipping as they claim.
If a company is going to be dishonest to start with, then in my opinion they shouldn’t be trusted.
Awesome Awesome Awesome review Robert I felt like I was a part of your the experience. I heard a friend of mine talking about DS but glad I now have a better idea of what it is.
You are welcome Jacobi! Yes, please stay away from DS Domination. You will wind up spending more money with them than you will making money from their program. You shouldn’t and do not have to pay a monthly fee just to sell and make money on eBay. DSD is not the best way to do it.
Hi Robert, thank you for this review, very complete. I do not like internet business where you have to sell something to make money. When you want to be successful in selling, you have to agree 100% with the product. Some people are extremely suitable for selling stuff, I am not one of them. Greetings Loes
Though you can make a living selling stuff online doing it the way that DS Domination claims is not going to work that well. You can make some money but no where near what they claim and how you go about selling is borderline illegal. If anyone is going to run their own business I would think they would want it to be an honest business and not one that takes advantage of people. But then again selling stuff that you are not 100% into isn’t for everyone either. – Thanks for your comment Loes.
Hey Robert, This is probably one of the most detailed and researched reviews I have seen. I think a ton of people and their wallet will be very thankful that you took the time to do this post.
I personally am sick and tired of these “systems” that cost a ton of money to get in and don’t deliver as advertised. I commend you for doing your due diligence in this review champ.
People need to realize that you do not get something for nothing, hands down. These leaches want to suck as much cash as they can out of someone with their products and its shameful.
Great post brother
Thank you Frederick and I hope this information will help others to avoid DS Domination and save themselves some time and mostly money. Making money online is possible and yes you have to invest a little money but the keyword here is “Little” and not a lot of money.
Being that I am an eBay PowerSeller and also an Amazon Associates when I saw DSD saying that all you need to do is copy information from Amazon and then paste it into eBay, I already knew that was shady and somewhat illegal. Plus I knew it wasn’t Drop Shipping as they claim it is. This, and for other reasons, is why I had to write this review, to help those who don’t know to STAY AWAY FROM DS DOMINATION!
Honestly Robert, ever since I found Wealthy Affiliate, I never look at others. This is because, due to my lack of knowledge I could just fall victim to all these scheme. I have to build the fence around me first until I’m strong enough to face the outside battle. Thanks for your concern and caution. Norleila
You are welcome Norleila. Like you I am the same way. Once I found Wealthy Affiliate and learned the correct way to build a website and earn money online, plus seeing great results, programs like DS Domination don’t even phase me in a positive way at all. When you have something that is easy and works great like WA, the fake programs like DSD are just false realities.
So I don’t understand is Wealthy Affiliate like or not like DSD? I am not familiar with either but doing research on how to start a drop shipping business from home. DSD was how I was first introduced to the idea but I don’t like how they don’t provide real information on their website, just general statements and directs you to the link to an affiliate. Seemed scam-my.
Wealthy Affiliate and DSD are two TOTALLY different programs. Wealthy Affiliate is a TRAINING platform that teaches you how to make money online via Affiliate Marketing, Video Marketing, Direct Sales, Website Creation, Content Marketing, Email Marketing, and basically any way you want to make money online. Wealthy Affiliate gives you the tools and easy to follow training and tons of support, so that you can choose your own way of making money with your very own website, for no more than $47.00 per month.
DSD on the other hand teaches you to copy product information and images from Amazon or Walmart’s website, paste that information into eBay, and charge more for that product. Doing this is illegal according to Amazon Terms of Use Agreement. Then when you make the eBay sale you take the customers money and purchase the product from the Amazon or Walmart website and have them ship it to your customer. THIS IS NOT DROP SHIPPING as DS Domination claims it is. It is actually called Arbitrage.
DSD does not give you credible information on Drop Shipping because they do not teach true Drop Shipping. Plus they charge you a ridiculously high monthly $119.90 ($19.95 + $99.95) membership fee. They also don’t tell you that in order to make a good living selling on eBay, you need to be a PowerSeller and you CANNOT become one until you have been selling successfully on eBay for at least a year. DSD also doesn’t tell you that on every sale you will have to pay eBay 10% of that sale and pay PayPal up to 3.9% of that sale. So between the eBay and PayPal fees and the monthly DSD fees, you will not make much money if at all.
I am an eBay PowerSeller and I will tell you right now, DSD is NOT the way to go. Learning Drop Shipping is easy and in some case it is free. For those time where you have to pay, it would be considerably less money than what DSD charges. The reason I joined Wealthy Affiliate is because they offer a true education in website design and multiple ways to make money with your own website for only $47.00 a month with NO upsells, unlike DSD. I then designed a couple of websites where I sell directly from and offer drop shipping.
Hi Robert 🙂
First, thank you for great article.
Second.. the reason I am asking this question is that I am in WA ( not premium ).
Is WA similar to DSD in that after joining, one is suggested to upgrade?
Thank You
Hi Joseph,
No, WA is not like DSD.
After you become a free starter member there is only one upgrade and that is to Premium. Once you are a Premium Member you get full access to everything WA has to offer and there is NO FURTHER increase in price!
Unlike DSD which will charge you a lot of money for programs that are not very valuable and can be learned for free elsewhere online, WA offers you awesome training and knowledge that you can use in a variety of internet marketing businesses.
I nearly bought DSD when it first came out as I quite like selling on Ebay and I’m thankful I didn’t. I don’t quite understand how this program continues. If it is clearly against Amazon’s terms so if a person is constantly shipping items to addresses that are not their own, surely this would arise Amazon’s suspicion? Great review, thanks for making us aware of what this program REALLY entails.
You are welcome Debbie. As far as the shipping goes the DSD course teaches you how to get around the rules for shipping to another address without getting Amazon suspicious. Amazon will ship to another address but it is when you do it multiple times to different addresses is when it becomes problematic, so the DSD training teaches you alternatives.
Either way it is a good thing that you didn’t buy the program because it seems that there aren’t too many people making money from the actual selling on eBay part of the program and have turned to the MLM side of the program and are recruiting people to join. I know someone who joined not long ago and she hasn’t yet broken even on the money she has invested every month. This poor woman had fallen for Empower Network and then left there after wasting thousands and now she is with DSD and is wasting hundreds. Some people never learn.
Thanks for the most excellent warning, Robert! I never had much luck with Amazon, so I’ve never heard of this one. But when I see it, I know now to run far, far away!
You are welcome Carla and now you know. So if you see anything that says DS Domination or a program that says all you have to do is copy & paste information to sell on eBay…definitely avoid it like the plague!
Hey, Robert
Whenever I see the term DS, I can’t help but think of “Nintendo DS” haha. I once had work friend who bragged about using drop shipping and I thought that it was just one big scam. But after doing my research on the internet I discovered it was in fact a legitimate business model which many people did for extra cash.
Great post and thanks for sharing your views on DS Domination which does actually sound very shifty to me. After reading your article, the program is very highly priced, is something I would never become involved in or recommend to my family and friends either.
I will look in to your recommendation of Wealthy Affiliate 🙂
Thanks.
Neil
You are welcome Neil. Yes Drop Shipping is a very real and legitimate way to make money. However DS Domination is NOT Drop Shipping as they claim to be. When ever you buy a retail item and then sell it for a higher price, that is called Arbitrage. They claim it is Drop Shipping because you are having the online retailer Amazon or Walmart, ship it to your customer. The only thing remotely similar to real Drop Shipping is that you do not handle the actual product.
Their copy and paste program has so many pitfalls that someone starting out for the first time selling on eBay is not going to make consistent big money. Plus the high monthly fees for information that can be had for far less and in most cases FREE on the internet and on eBay! DS Domination is a Rip Off, plain and simple. I know this from more than 14 years of successfully selling on eBay and using REAL Drop Shippers.
Definitely stay away from these guys. The only DS you should get involved with is a Nintendo DS. 🙂
Thank you so much for the great review. There are so many companies out there trying to deceive. It is great people can find out whats going on before they waste their money. I am also glad you pointed out ruining your reputation on ebay. I have sold a few things and have an excellent rating. It took a while to build and I would hate to ruin that. Breaking Amazon rules could also mess you up for a long time. I appreciate the warning!
You are welcome Amanda. That is one of the reasons why I started this website, to expose those companies who seek to take advantage of people who are not knowledgeable in the ways of how to correctly and truthfully make money online. In addition I also offer REAL alternatives that I personally know that work which can help people to start their own online business that they can work from anywhere.
As an eBay PowerSeller I personally know how long and hard it takes to build up a excellent rating and using DS Domination will eventually downgrade that rating. You shouldn’t have to break the rules of a company to make money. That is NOT a great way to build a reputation as an honest business.
As usual, top quality information to keep us informed. I really admire the way you constantly provide value to readers, much of which can help us avoid costly mistakes.
Regards and good luck
Thank you John. I always feel that it is important to give my readers not only the facts but my honest opinions, especially when I have first-hand knowledge in the matter as I do in this case by being an eBay PowerSeller. That being said, using DS Domination to make money on eBay is a total waste of money because what they are charging people for can be found and taught for free.
Robert,
Really insightful review.
Arbitrage who’d have thought it, doesn’t sound quite as sexy.
Love that you are a power seller and offer free advice.
Thank You.
You are welcome Robert, love your first name. 🙂
Yes DS Domination is not real Drop Shipping. Selling a retail item for a higher price and then pocketing the difference is called Arbitrage and not Drop Shipping as they claim. Plus they charge you a ridiculous monthly cost for information that can be had for free! This is why I say in my review that the DS in DS Domination should not stand for Drop Shipping but should stand for Deceptive Selling.
As an eBay PowerSeller I know what it takes to sell and make money on eBay and how I learned was for free, so naturally I am going to offer my knowledge for free too. It’s the right thing to do.
Hello Robert. Becoming a seller on ebay is something I have always thought about. You read a lot about so many scams out there that sometimes we just freeze up, and become afraid to take any action. I appreciate it when I find honest reviews like yours. Also, thanks for the link to your 7 tips. Maybe it’s time to take some action… Thanks again ~Jeremy
Making money by selling on eBay, like all businesses, can take a little time but it is possible and it is easier and cheaper than joining DS Domination. Any one or company that claims that they can show you how to sell on eBay for a cost is scamming you since I have sold on eBay for 14 years and I know for a fact that you do not have to pay to start selling. This is why I am offering free information on my website. – Thank you for your comment Jeremy.
Wow! What a terrible business idea. Thanks so much for sharing how this is really working.
You are welcome Allyn. DS Domination truly is a poor money wasting way to start an eBay business that can be done for free in another way through wholesalers and drop shippers.
I don’t know if you mentioned it but (I got about 1/3 of the way down and decided DS was definitely not for me) but I can’t see this as being a good way to build a reputation on Ebay. When someone gets the Amazon packaging they will be able to determine the true cost of the product.
A few years back I bought something on Ebay and when it arrived from Amazon (without a price of course), I looked it up and saw I’d overpaid by $5. I felt ripped off and did not leave any feedback for the seller (it didn’t feel right to leave bad feedback as it was my fault I didn’t research better before buying).
Exactly Arp! If you are going to sell on eBay then you should sell truthfully and responsibly and DS Domination doesn’t teach you that. There are many checks-and-balances that go into becoming a Top Rated eBay PowerSeller and there is NO WAY you could ever get to that level by following the DS Domination way if you are starting from the beginning.
All of the “Legal” and the “Truthful” information that DSD is charging hundreds of dollars for can be had for a lot less money and even FREE! Anyone who pays DSD for free information, please send them to me, I have a bridge I want to sell them. 🙂
Oh! Oh! Oh! excellent review Robert and I speak from personal experience! Just before I found WA I came across DSD and spent a month trying to get it going. I came up against one obstacle after another and call me slow to catch on but it just did not feel right!
The whole experience ended up costing me money. Not too much unfortunately but it wasted time and that costs also.
When I cancelled my membership it slightly overlapped with my next months payment by hours but they refused to return my fee.
As you say Robert, leave it alone and drop it like a hot potato! Join WA instead, that’s a proper business training!
Sorry to hear that Janice but it doesn’t surprise me. I was sent some promotional videos and emails, matter of fact I still get some emails, and after viewing them it sounded too good to be true. If I wasn’t already an eBay seller and knew the rules of selling on eBay, I may have fallen for DSD.
But I still would have asked what would be the cost and if it were a monthly cost or a one time payment, plus I would have researched the selling information on eBay itself. That’s how I got started in the first place. No one should need to pay DS Domination for information that can be had for very little money if not free and that is what I hope this review will point out.
Thanks for your comment!
Great review Robert!
I am very wary about these products that have all these up sells!
I will be staying away from this program and checking out your other recommendations!
John
Thank you John!
Yes, the majority of online programs and courses that have upsells normally are not worth getting into. Why have upsells? That is what I always say when I review a product. Set one price and that should be it!
Hey Robert. I did not need to read any further once I got through the identifying DS as “arbitrage”. I think maybe I took a look at this company a couple of years or so ago, & noticed then that it was not the “drop ship” kind of company I wanted to work with. I mean drop ship is drop ship -yes? So when all the add on tricks & jump through the hoops this N that’s are attached, it becomes not what I want to work with as a drop ship business.
Drop ship will ship the product to the addresses my company supplies, I do not have to warehouse nor employ a warehouse full of people (along with all the governmental red tape!). A drop ship company makes it simple. The difference in what I charge & what the drop ship co. requires so to purchase & ship the product is my profit. This DS thing you’ve exposed is Not simple and is NOT drop ship.
Thank you, Robert. You have taken the time (some major time, I might add) so to explain to me / us what this particular scam co. is all about. And I ain’t gonna touch it with a ten foot pole.
Thanks Robert!
You are welcome JW. There is nothing wrong with Drop Shipping when it is TRUE Drop Shipping. I do drop shipping myself in my eBay business and I am a PowerSeller so I already know the information that DSD is promoting is very misleading. First they claim it is drop shipping when it is Arbitrage. Then they teach you to copy & paste information directly from the Amazon & Walmart websites into your eBay listings. Amazon clearly states in their Terms and Conditions agreement that you cannot copy ANYTHING off of their website without written authorization from Amazon. Why would anyone want to spend more than $100 a month on something that is semi illegal when they can do drop shipping the correct way for far less money?
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the review on DSD. I still go back and read reviews on other programs now and then after joining Wealthy Affiliate, just out of curiosity.
I have fallen for far too many scams through the years, I might have fallen for this one too if I came across it.
Joining the Wealthy Affiliate team was the last stop for me. It’s really nice to finally land some place where you know that you’re going to get everything you need without having to pay for the next level or move on at some point because you’ve reached a dead end.
I really appreciate the community and all of the training & support I get at WA. I would be hard pressed to find anything bad to say about the program at all. They really have done a great job of putting together something worthwhile for everyone from beginner to expert.
Thanks again for revealing another con artist with your reviews.
Wayne
You are welcome Wayne. Being an eBay PowerSeleer I know first hand how to sell on eBay and what DS Domination is teaching people is misleading right from the start. First off REAL Drop Shipping is when you deal with a Manufacturer or a Wholesaler of what you are selling not buying the product at a lower “Retail” price and selling it for a higher price. There is a word for that and it is “Arbitrage” not “Drop Shipping.”
So the information DSD is promoting is not only misleading but it is way too expensive, especially when most of what they are telling you to do can be done for far less money and in some cases free! But like P.T. Barnum said, “There’s a sucker born every minute” and many people do not know any better so they fall for programs like DSD.
Thankfully you are one of the smart ones and you joined Wealthy Affiliate like I did and have built your own money making website where you get to keep 100% of the money you make off of it…and you still do not have to stock any products if you do not want to.
Great review Robert! I’ve never tried selling anything on eBay but I have thought about it for some time but glad I found your article before I do anything silly that I would regret in the future.
I agree with Wayne, I too have come across many scams before stopping at Wealthy Affiliate and I must say, I am very fortunate to have found WA. The community and education there is awesome ! my only regret is that I did not get the opportunity to try out WA first which has wasted me so much time oh woe is me :/
Thank you Riaz! I’m glad you liked my review of DS Domination. There are always those programs out there that will prey on the people who don’t know any better and/or who think they can make good money by taking what they think is the easy road. The only way to make good money selling on eBay is to work hard at it. There isn’t an internet business that is an easy way to make good money.
Being that I know first hand what it takes to make money on eBay and become a PowerSeller in the process, I am going to share any and all tips I have for those who want to start selling on eBay. I am not going to rip people off like DS Domination. I’m going to offer my advice for FREE because that is how I learned it and how anyone today will learn it if they take the time to apply what they learn and not look for the easy way out. Paying DSD several hundreds of dollars a year is just plain stupid when you can get the majority of the “truthful” information for free online from eBay.
As for Wealthy Affiliate…YES! I too wish I had found them a couple of years sooner than I did. Judging on how far I have come with them in a years time, I could be retiring right now if I started this three years prior to when I did. But I am SO GLAD that I did join them, they are truly the best way to start an online business…without a doubt!!!
Robert,
As a power seller, I can say that you can do all of this on your own if you spend the time. I have a store, and drop ship with out having to pay any one but Ebay and Paypal. As a power seller your fees do drop and you can make more money. You should not have to pay for any thing else. I have various sources for my product, I do not use Walmart or Amazon.
John
I agree with you John! Like you I am an eBay PowerSeller and it upsets me when I see people being taken advantage of all in the name of making money on eBay from Amazon. I make money selling on eBay for far less money than what people have to pay DS Domination for and I make money from Amazon too, and that is completely free. The information DSD promotes is a sad joke. I’m not saying it will not work but you definitely can do TRUE Drop Shipping for WAY LESS MONEY! I even offer a free link to wholesalers and drop shippers on this website along with eBay selling tips. – Thanks for your comment John. Always great to meet another successful PowerSeller.
Hey Robert,
This is a great review of DS Domination. I have actually never heard of this before and it has provided me great information, that I now know what to do if I never come across this. I know you have listed some pros for this, but I think you are being generous giving this review a 35 out of 100 =)
35? Oops! Should be 25. – Yeah 25 might still be a little too generous but if you are someone like me, who has a large positive feedback selling score on eBay you could make some money on it. Like I said, I wouldn’t call DS Domination a total scam but it is very misleading and anyone can do better without it.
I appreciate the information especially about E-Bay I have sold a few things but never been to successful at it so am going over to your How To Make Money On EBay
I think I would pass on this company and there dealing’s have been involved with people like this and they are not very nice,Vicki
You are welcome Vicki. You are very wise to pass up on DS Domination. You make money on eBay without them. I have and so many others have too. I even offer free eBay selling tips and a free link to over 1000 wholesalers and drop shippers on my (this) website. Why pay DSD for misleading information when I can help you for free? I already make money from eBay and my websites plus my work at home projects, I have no problem giving away my information for free. So please check it out and share this and my other content on social media!